Comments on: Middle-tier diet… http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/ Oracle related rants (and lots of off-topic stuff)... Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Recipes for Diabetic http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-140882 Recipes for Diabetic Mon, 14 Mar 2011 05:41:49 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/#comment-140882 Pretty impressive. Never tried middle-tier diet yet. I just tried checking other blogs regarding this middle-tier diet. Most of the people have at most 70% success rate in applying such. I am thinking if it would be risky to my part as a starter or not.Nevertheless, I'll just try this out soon. Thanks sharing though. Pretty impressive. Never tried middle-tier diet yet.

I just tried checking other blogs regarding this middle-tier diet. Most of the people have at most 70% success rate in applying such. I am thinking if it would be risky to my part as a starter or not.Nevertheless, I’ll just try this out soon.

Thanks sharing though.

]]> By: hemroids http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-137622 hemroids Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:11:39 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/#comment-137622 seriously i've been with oracle for 2 years very impressive seriously i’ve been with oracle for 2 years very impressive

]]> By: slim fast diet plan http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-137621 slim fast diet plan Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:10:27 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/#comment-137621 4 years on, it turns out it doesn’t. Granted, there is *potential* for better, tighter integration with Oracle DBMS and who knows, given recent events, that may well come to pass in the next few months. However, I have Siebel running on a 4 year old laptop with 1GB of memory (Web server, Application tier and Oracle 10g database) and a Linux VM. I tell customers this who moan about Siebel’s massive hardware requirements and memory footprint. [Hint: look carefully at your customisations and scripting before you buy yet another cluster 4 years on, it turns out it doesn’t. Granted, there is *potential* for better, tighter integration with Oracle DBMS and who knows, given recent events, that may well come to pass in the next few months.

However, I have Siebel running on a 4 year old laptop with 1GB of memory (Web server, Application tier and Oracle 10g database) and a Linux VM. I tell customers this who moan about Siebel’s massive hardware requirements and memory footprint. [Hint: look carefully at your customisations and scripting before you buy yet another cluster

]]> By: Diabetics | Low Prot http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-122404 Diabetics | Low Prot Fri, 28 May 2010 03:15:15 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/#comment-122404 More of an IT diet, huh :-) Interesting! More of an IT diet, huh :-) Interesting!

]]> By: Noons http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-9270 Noons Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:31:46 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/#comment-9270 j2ee is the biggest rip-off in the history of IT. there is not a single claim that j2ee makes that has ever been sustained and proven in real life. not one. but it sells hardware as if it was hot cakes. and OS licences. and app server licences. and "seats". and a lot of other things. as such, there isn't one marketeer of one of the above that doesn't like it. j2ee is the biggest rip-off in the history of IT.
there is not a single claim that j2ee makes that has ever been sustained and proven in real life. not one.

but it sells hardware as if it was hot cakes. and OS licences. and app server licences. and “seats”. and a lot of other things.

as such, there isn’t one marketeer of one of the above that doesn’t like it.

]]> By: Andy C http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-9112 Andy C Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:02:20 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/02/02/middle-tier-diet/#comment-9112 When I first encountered Siebel, I was horrified to learn it didn't support native referential integrity constraints, table partitioning, parallel query, IOT's, parallel DML, CBO and all those other Oracle features. I was convinced all of this would significantly hinder the scalability of the middle tier. 4 years on, it turns out it doesn't. Granted, there is *potential* for better, tighter integration with Oracle DBMS and who knows, given recent events, that may well come to pass in the next few months. However, I have Siebel running on a 4 year old laptop with 1GB of memory (Web server, Application tier and Oracle 10g database) and a Linux VM. I tell customers this who moan about Siebel's massive hardware requirements and memory footprint. [Hint: look carefully at your customisations and scripting before you buy yet another cluster] 'Lowest common denominator' database support from Siebel and other vendors may well infuriate the purists and Oracle evangelists but makes supporting other databases (DB2, SQL Server) a lot, lot easier. Surprisingly, database independence is important to application vendors for commercial reasons (license sales). There are still of lot of Big Blue customers out there, typically in the big corporations who hold big IT budgets. When I first encountered Siebel, I was horrified to learn it didn’t support native referential integrity constraints, table partitioning, parallel query, IOT’s, parallel DML, CBO and all those other Oracle features.

I was convinced all of this would significantly hinder the scalability of the middle tier.

4 years on, it turns out it doesn’t. Granted, there is *potential* for better, tighter integration with Oracle DBMS and who knows, given recent events, that may well come to pass in the next few months.

However, I have Siebel running on a 4 year old laptop with 1GB of memory (Web server, Application tier and Oracle 10g database) and a Linux VM. I tell customers this who moan about Siebel’s massive hardware requirements and memory footprint. [Hint: look carefully at your customisations and scripting before you buy yet another cluster]

‘Lowest common denominator’ database support from Siebel and other vendors may well infuriate the purists and Oracle evangelists but makes supporting other databases (DB2, SQL Server) a lot, lot easier.

Surprisingly, database independence is important to application vendors for commercial reasons (license sales). There are still of lot of Big Blue customers out there, typically in the big corporations who hold big IT budgets.

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