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	<title>Comments on: Work and Oracle ACE Director&#8230; (again)</title>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/07/25/work-and-oracle-ace-director-again/comment-page-1/#comment-107431</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

The amount of events you have to attend vary. I think the offical line is at least 1 Oracle and 1 non-Oracle, but most ACEs do much more. I&#039;m currently in the middle of a few months of conferences. :)

Yes. You lose a lot of pay, but it&#039;s fun. :)

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>The amount of events you have to attend vary. I think the offical line is at least 1 Oracle and 1 non-Oracle, but most ACEs do much more. I&#8217;m currently in the middle of a few months of conferences. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes. You lose a lot of pay, but it&#8217;s fun. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HelloPrasanna</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/07/25/work-and-oracle-ace-director-again/comment-page-1/#comment-107429</link>
		<dc:creator>HelloPrasanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,

Cograts a lot Tim..
Even if they take care of travel and accomodation, it seems to me huge commitment in terms of time and effort. 

And If your a individual consultant like me then you have to attend the conferences at the loss of pay.

How many days per year you would have to work towards this?

--Prasanna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>Cograts a lot Tim..<br />
Even if they take care of travel and accomodation, it seems to me huge commitment in terms of time and effort. </p>
<p>And If your a individual consultant like me then you have to attend the conferences at the loss of pay.</p>
<p>How many days per year you would have to work towards this?</p>
<p>&#8211;Prasanna</p>
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		<title>By: Aman....</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/07/25/work-and-oracle-ace-director-again/comment-page-1/#comment-28153</link>
		<dc:creator>Aman....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi sir,
Congrats a ton for becoming ACE Director.You are one of those very few whom I look upon as an ideal for me going  on the way of this infinite but exciting journey of learning oracle.You deserve this credentials.Congrats for this and wish you get many more like this in future too.
Best regards,
Aman....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi sir,<br />
Congrats a ton for becoming ACE Director.You are one of those very few whom I look upon as an ideal for me going  on the way of this infinite but exciting journey of learning oracle.You deserve this credentials.Congrats for this and wish you get many more like this in future too.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Aman&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/07/25/work-and-oracle-ace-director-again/comment-page-1/#comment-27899</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve decided to accept it.

As an ACE I already get a free conference pass for Open World. Oracle have also picked up the tab for flights and accommodation, so that&#039;s the biggest financial commitment take care of. The rest is just time, and I already spend that doing geeky stuff.

Doug: Regarding &quot;stay honest&quot;

I think my one major failing in life is I never worry about biting the hand that feeds me. It quite often gets me into trouble. I don&#039;t think a crown on a logo will alter that. :)

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve decided to accept it.</p>
<p>As an ACE I already get a free conference pass for Open World. Oracle have also picked up the tab for flights and accommodation, so that&#8217;s the biggest financial commitment take care of. The rest is just time, and I already spend that doing geeky stuff.</p>
<p>Doug: Regarding &#8220;stay honest&#8221;</p>
<p>I think my one major failing in life is I never worry about biting the hand that feeds me. It quite often gets me into trouble. I don&#8217;t think a crown on a logo will alter that. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Burns</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/07/25/work-and-oracle-ace-director-again/comment-page-1/#comment-27835</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

&quot;All the time comes out of my holidays and all the expenses come out of my pocket. &quot;

You&#039;re right to give this serious consideration. Once you put together lost wages or fees, accommodation and flights, it doesn&#039;t take long before this becomes a serious financial commitment. I wonder sometimes whether people who attend presentations whilst being on company wages and expenses really appreciate that. That&#039;s why I tend to do it in waves, generally. I get into it for a year or two (because I enjoy it) and then think &#039;Gulp! How much is this costing me!&#039; But I always go back to it in the end.

So, congrats and all that, but you&#039;re wise to consider the financial implications. On the other hand, as Peter K points out, if Oracle take care of the financial burden ... &quot;... folks will say that the ACEs have to say that because Oracle is paying them to say so.&quot;

But you were expecting me to keep droning on about that, right? ;-)

In the end - do what&#039;s right for you, stay honest (as if you could be anything but!) and I for one will support you all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>&#8220;All the time comes out of my holidays and all the expenses come out of my pocket. &#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right to give this serious consideration. Once you put together lost wages or fees, accommodation and flights, it doesn&#8217;t take long before this becomes a serious financial commitment. I wonder sometimes whether people who attend presentations whilst being on company wages and expenses really appreciate that. That&#8217;s why I tend to do it in waves, generally. I get into it for a year or two (because I enjoy it) and then think &#8216;Gulp! How much is this costing me!&#8217; But I always go back to it in the end.</p>
<p>So, congrats and all that, but you&#8217;re wise to consider the financial implications. On the other hand, as Peter K points out, if Oracle take care of the financial burden &#8230; &#8220;&#8230; folks will say that the ACEs have to say that because Oracle is paying them to say so.&#8221;</p>
<p>But you were expecting me to keep droning on about that, right? <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the end &#8211; do what&#8217;s right for you, stay honest (as if you could be anything but!) and I for one will support you all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: joel garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats!

I&#039;d say, go for it, and look for a job in a software or support house, maybe in the bioinformatics arena given your education.  Have you put down deep roots where you live?  That&#039;s been my major consideration since I&#039;ve had kids (well, really the wife&#039;s consideration).

Getting paid for doing what you do on your own anyways hardly seems like working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, go for it, and look for a job in a software or support house, maybe in the bioinformatics arena given your education.  Have you put down deep roots where you live?  That&#8217;s been my major consideration since I&#8217;ve had kids (well, really the wife&#8217;s consideration).</p>
<p>Getting paid for doing what you do on your own anyways hardly seems like working.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Collings</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/07/25/work-and-oracle-ace-director-again/comment-page-1/#comment-27783</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Collings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GL for the future ~ I look forward to reading about it here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GL for the future ~ I look forward to reading about it here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kashif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kashif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations!

If your still looking for a job email me! we need a Oracle DBA :) and considering I refer to your site alot it would make so much easier!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations!</p>
<p>If your still looking for a job email me! we need a Oracle DBA <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and considering I refer to your site alot it would make so much easier!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Aman</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2007/07/25/work-and-oracle-ace-director-again/comment-page-1/#comment-27692</link>
		<dc:creator>Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats sir!Take it up!You deserve it!
Best regards,
Aman....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats sir!Take it up!You deserve it!<br />
Best regards,<br />
Aman&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sidhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats Tim

Moving to next level :)

Sidhu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats Tim</p>
<p>Moving to next level <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sidhu</p>
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