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	<description>Oracle related rants (and lots of off-topic stuff)...</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-71563</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. People still use stones and lbs for weight over here most of the time. People often talk about kilos in the gym, then state their weight in stones... Strange. :)

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. People still use stones and lbs for weight over here most of the time. People often talk about kilos in the gym, then state their weight in stones&#8230; Strange. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter K</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-71463</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,
You have done very well with slimming down from 19 stones (Gawd, do we still use that measurement ...heh).

Cheers,
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,<br />
You have done very well with slimming down from 19 stones (Gawd, do we still use that measurement &#8230;heh).</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-71161</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham: I agree. Having people like Howard around brightens up my day. If his blog were available, you would see I was one of the people who responded with a "keep going" message when he posted his, "My hit rates are low and nobody appreciates me so I'm going to turn off all my sites" blog post.

Over the years I've received many private emails complaining about Howard, especially this week. Most of the time I find myself defending his rather eccentric behavior. I think he's capable of adding considerably to the Oracle community. I also know he is capable of embarrassing himself by showing what a complete ass he is.

I hope he doesn't try to use these incidents as a reason for giving up, but then this type of self-harm is part of his nature.

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham: I agree. Having people like Howard around brightens up my day. If his blog were available, you would see I was one of the people who responded with a &#8220;keep going&#8221; message when he posted his, &#8220;My hit rates are low and nobody appreciates me so I&#8217;m going to turn off all my sites&#8221; blog post.</p>
<p>Over the years I&#8217;ve received many private emails complaining about Howard, especially this week. Most of the time I find myself defending his rather eccentric behavior. I think he&#8217;s capable of adding considerably to the Oracle community. I also know he is capable of embarrassing himself by showing what a complete ass he is.</p>
<p>I hope he doesn&#8217;t try to use these incidents as a reason for giving up, but then this type of self-harm is part of his nature.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-71105</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard...

I do believe you're a five year old, no matter what else you might have published... which may be fact or fiction, I have no way of knowing.

All I have to go on are your comments, which really paint a very clear picture of you as a miserable whinging sod, sorry if that's not entirely correct, but your public persona is all that I see.

Different type of spam as well, I don't really have a problem with the "lighter" moments that sweep through the news aggregator like a wave... or even the less relevant technical ones (did the 11g release really interest me? no. Did it take up 90% of OracleNA for the best part of a month? yes.) The one I do have a probelm with is the repeated "buy your pills here" spam that automatically gets blasted into older blog posts. Once I get some bandwidth to figure out why the Captcha solution I was trying to install is failling on a perl call then I'll re-enable comments, until then people need to get a Typekey, as that's the only authenticaiton I can put in place that's working and doesn't need me to babysit it too much!

One, you will learn the meaning of the word "relevant" as it applies to your comments as it appears both on this post, and on Tim's later post, that you aimlessly meander off into worlds of your own understanding on a whim, unfortunately those worlds have little connection to the world that the rest of us participate in.

Mind you, life would be so much more boring without bizzarre clowns like you, so please keep it up :)

Best wishes,

Graham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard&#8230;</p>
<p>I do believe you&#8217;re a five year old, no matter what else you might have published&#8230; which may be fact or fiction, I have no way of knowing.</p>
<p>All I have to go on are your comments, which really paint a very clear picture of you as a miserable whinging sod, sorry if that&#8217;s not entirely correct, but your public persona is all that I see.</p>
<p>Different type of spam as well, I don&#8217;t really have a problem with the &#8220;lighter&#8221; moments that sweep through the news aggregator like a wave&#8230; or even the less relevant technical ones (did the 11g release really interest me? no. Did it take up 90% of OracleNA for the best part of a month? yes.) The one I do have a probelm with is the repeated &#8220;buy your pills here&#8221; spam that automatically gets blasted into older blog posts. Once I get some bandwidth to figure out why the Captcha solution I was trying to install is failling on a perl call then I&#8217;ll re-enable comments, until then people need to get a Typekey, as that&#8217;s the only authenticaiton I can put in place that&#8217;s working and doesn&#8217;t need me to babysit it too much!</p>
<p>One, you will learn the meaning of the word &#8220;relevant&#8221; as it applies to your comments as it appears both on this post, and on Tim&#8217;s later post, that you aimlessly meander off into worlds of your own understanding on a whim, unfortunately those worlds have little connection to the world that the rest of us participate in.</p>
<p>Mind you, life would be so much more boring without bizzarre clowns like you, so please keep it up <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Graham</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-71097</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard: I am constantly amazed how you can spout such drivel and expect other people to believe it. I can write what I want on my blog. I don't send it to anyone or force anyone to read it. This is completely different to me sending you an email and forcing you to have to delete it. Trying to liken this to email or personal stereos just highlights how delusional you are.

If I had personally asked all the blog aggregators to include my posts then wrote a load of stuff to cause a problem, maybe you would have a case, but since I didn't you haven't. If I decide I want to write 1,000 posts a day on complete random guff that is my business. If a blog aggregator chooses to aggregate my content, it's totally nothing to do with me. Stopping being an ass and admit you are totally out of your depth!

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard: I am constantly amazed how you can spout such drivel and expect other people to believe it. I can write what I want on my blog. I don&#8217;t send it to anyone or force anyone to read it. This is completely different to me sending you an email and forcing you to have to delete it. Trying to liken this to email or personal stereos just highlights how delusional you are.</p>
<p>If I had personally asked all the blog aggregators to include my posts then wrote a load of stuff to cause a problem, maybe you would have a case, but since I didn&#8217;t you haven&#8217;t. If I decide I want to write 1,000 posts a day on complete random guff that is my business. If a blog aggregator chooses to aggregate my content, it&#8217;s totally nothing to do with me. Stopping being an ass and admit you are totally out of your depth!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-70756</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment spam is unsolicited. Writing posts about something you are interested in is not.&lt;/i&gt;

Right. So the people that send spam emails are OK then, because they're writing stuff about things they're interested in (getting you to spend money, basically)? I don't think so.

Comment spam may well be unsolicited, but 'blog spam', when a news aggregator is flooded by dozens of similar posts, is similarly unpleasant.

Spam is spam, Tim, whoever writes it and in whatever form it presents itself.

But you do indeed remind me of the woman on the train who, when I asked her politely to turn down her "personal" stereo spat at me, told me to get a life and then get earplugs. Thus it became &lt;b&gt;my&lt;/b&gt; responsibility to take action to mitigate &lt;b&gt;her&lt;/b&gt; antisocial behaviour. I see no difference between that and being told now, by you, that it's my responsibility to not subscribe to blog aggregators because you've just flooded them with spam. Very community-spirited of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment spam is unsolicited. Writing posts about something you are interested in is not.</i></p>
<p>Right. So the people that send spam emails are OK then, because they&#8217;re writing stuff about things they&#8217;re interested in (getting you to spend money, basically)? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Comment spam may well be unsolicited, but &#8216;blog spam&#8217;, when a news aggregator is flooded by dozens of similar posts, is similarly unpleasant.</p>
<p>Spam is spam, Tim, whoever writes it and in whatever form it presents itself.</p>
<p>But you do indeed remind me of the woman on the train who, when I asked her politely to turn down her &#8220;personal&#8221; stereo spat at me, told me to get a life and then get earplugs. Thus it became <b>my</b> responsibility to take action to mitigate <b>her</b> antisocial behaviour. I see no difference between that and being told now, by you, that it&#8217;s my responsibility to not subscribe to blog aggregators because you&#8217;ve just flooded them with spam. Very community-spirited of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Aman....</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-70676</link>
		<dc:creator>Aman....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 I am wth you sir life without cheese is no life indeed and #5,#8,I amnot able to stop my smile.
Regards,
Aman....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 I am wth you sir life without cheese is no life indeed and #5,#8,I amnot able to stop my smile.<br />
Regards,<br />
Aman&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-70622</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment spam is unsolicited. Writing posts about something you are interested in is not. If you don't like it, don't subscribe to the blogs or blog aggregators. Simple really!

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment spam is unsolicited. Writing posts about something you are interested in is not. If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t subscribe to the blogs or blog aggregators. Simple really!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-70608</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well no, not miserable at all actually. 

Funny thing is, Graham, I see your blog's current(ish) post is all about you having to enable a spam filter because, and I quote, "the sheer level of crap that is getting published in the comments has made me do it."

So, some people are allowed to filter 'crap' out, but the rest of us just have to put up with it or be personally abused, is that the way this works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well no, not miserable at all actually. </p>
<p>Funny thing is, Graham, I see your blog&#8217;s current(ish) post is all about you having to enable a spam filter because, and I quote, &#8220;the sheer level of crap that is getting published in the comments has made me do it.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, some people are allowed to filter &#8216;crap&#8217; out, but the rest of us just have to put up with it or be personally abused, is that the way this works?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/09/tag-here-goes-a-chain-letter/#comment-70602</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be the last song I heard on the radio. :)

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be the last song I heard on the radio. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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