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		<title>By: Pete Finnigan</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/14/sentrigo-hedgehog/comment-page-1/#comment-94588</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Finnigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,

I finally got some time to create a short article about testing Sentrigo Hedgehog. Its on my site at http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001179.htm

cheers

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>I finally got some time to create a short article about testing Sentrigo Hedgehog. Its on my site at <a href="http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001179.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001179.htm</a></p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Finnigan</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/14/sentrigo-hedgehog/comment-page-1/#comment-79551</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Finnigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim and Nigel,

Sorry for the delayed comment here. I saw this post a few weeks ago and I have had it in my mind to comment but lack of time prevented it. I will do a review of Hedgehog and post it to my website but to do it properly and write it up I need to allocate some time. I have done just that now and will aim to get a review out by the 21st of March. I can understand Nigel&#039;s comment about my neutrallity and I also thank Tim&#039;s view of his trust in me. For those reasons, of course the review will be suitably caveated to show exactly where I stand in relationship to Sentrigo so that there is no mistakes. Also I am going to approach it from the view point of &quot;why did I choose to work with Sentrigo&#039;s Hedgehog&quot; - its my opinion, my views of the product, with this angle I hope everyone will accept it with the spirit its intended.

cheers

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim and Nigel,</p>
<p>Sorry for the delayed comment here. I saw this post a few weeks ago and I have had it in my mind to comment but lack of time prevented it. I will do a review of Hedgehog and post it to my website but to do it properly and write it up I need to allocate some time. I have done just that now and will aim to get a review out by the 21st of March. I can understand Nigel&#8217;s comment about my neutrallity and I also thank Tim&#8217;s view of his trust in me. For those reasons, of course the review will be suitably caveated to show exactly where I stand in relationship to Sentrigo so that there is no mistakes. Also I am going to approach it from the view point of &#8220;why did I choose to work with Sentrigo&#8217;s Hedgehog&#8221; &#8211; its my opinion, my views of the product, with this angle I hope everyone will accept it with the spirit its intended.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/14/sentrigo-hedgehog/comment-page-1/#comment-72942</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

That&#039;s strange. I didn&#039;t get that message. I only got the messages telling me to change my admin password and to set the email details. I&#039;m not going to pursue this since it&#039;s not supported anyway. :)

If I have time I&#039;ll try a reinstall against 10g and have a play.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s strange. I didn&#8217;t get that message. I only got the messages telling me to change my admin password and to set the email details. I&#8217;m not going to pursue this since it&#8217;s not supported anyway. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If I have time I&#8217;ll try a reinstall against 10g and have a play.</p>
<p>Thanks for your help.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Slavik Markovich</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/14/sentrigo-hedgehog/comment-page-1/#comment-72939</link>
		<dc:creator>Slavik Markovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,

To see the error message, please take a look at the upper right corner blinking hedgehog with &quot;Severe Messages&quot; link. I&#039;ve just tried this and the error message I received reads: &quot;A severe sensor error occurred. Please contact Sentrigo support at http://support.sentrigo.com. Sensor message: Oracle Major version not supported&quot;.

About the rpm installation, you&#039;re right. We&#039;ll fix in our next version.

Thanks,
Slavik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>To see the error message, please take a look at the upper right corner blinking hedgehog with &#8220;Severe Messages&#8221; link. I&#8217;ve just tried this and the error message I received reads: &#8220;A severe sensor error occurred. Please contact Sentrigo support at <a href="http://support.sentrigo.com" rel="nofollow">http://support.sentrigo.com</a>. Sensor message: Oracle Major version not supported&#8221;.</p>
<p>About the rpm installation, you&#8217;re right. We&#8217;ll fix in our next version.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Slavik</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/14/sentrigo-hedgehog/comment-page-1/#comment-72908</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nigel: I guess Pete having a &quot;vested&quot; interest might unnerve some people, but I trust him to give an honest appraisal.

Slavik: Thanks for the update. I&#039;ve made a couple of amendments to the article to explain why I had problems.

I checked through the installation again and I couldn&#039;t see an error message or warning about not supporting the version. I guess I&#039;m just not looking in the correct place. There is also nothing shown on the console. As you say, I think you definitely need to highlight this more to stop numpties like me getting confused. :)

Whilst checking the installation test I also couldn&#039;t find the URL. All I get is:

&lt;pre&gt;
Extracting rpm: sentrigo-server-jre-1.2.1-5464.i586.rpm ...
Checksumming...
Installing rpm file...
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
   1:sentrigo-server        ########################################### [100%]
Unpacking JAR files.....
.........................
.........................
.........................
.........................
.........................
........
#&lt;/pre&gt;

and:

&lt;pre&gt;
# rpm -Uvh sentrigo-sensor-1.2.1-2839.i386.rpm
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
   1:sentrigo-sensor        ########################################### [100%]
#&lt;/pre&gt;

I did enjoy using the product. I think it&#039;s really neat. The usability things I mentioned are not show-stoppers, just things that jumped out at me. Someone else might have a completely different opinion. There&#039;s nothing to say I&#039;m correct. :)

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel: I guess Pete having a &#8220;vested&#8221; interest might unnerve some people, but I trust him to give an honest appraisal.</p>
<p>Slavik: Thanks for the update. I&#8217;ve made a couple of amendments to the article to explain why I had problems.</p>
<p>I checked through the installation again and I couldn&#8217;t see an error message or warning about not supporting the version. I guess I&#8217;m just not looking in the correct place. There is also nothing shown on the console. As you say, I think you definitely need to highlight this more to stop numpties like me getting confused. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Whilst checking the installation test I also couldn&#8217;t find the URL. All I get is:</p>
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Extracting rpm: sentrigo-server-jre-1.2.1-5464.i586.rpm ...
Checksumming...
Installing rpm file...
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
   1:sentrigo-server        ########################################### [100%]
Unpacking JAR files.....
.........................
.........................
.........................
.........................
.........................
........
#</pre>
<p>and:</p>
<pre>
# rpm -Uvh sentrigo-sensor-1.2.1-2839.i386.rpm
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
   1:sentrigo-sensor        ########################################### [100%]
#</pre>
<p>I did enjoy using the product. I think it&#8217;s really neat. The usability things I mentioned are not show-stoppers, just things that jumped out at me. Someone else might have a completely different opinion. There&#8217;s nothing to say I&#8217;m correct. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Slavik Markovich</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/14/sentrigo-hedgehog/comment-page-1/#comment-72623</link>
		<dc:creator>Slavik Markovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim – many thanks for taking the time to download and try Hedgehog. 

The main reason you did not manage to monitor the database is that presently Hedgehog supports 11g on Windows 32bit only. We’ll support 11g on Linux in the upcoming release. Hedgehog does alert you that the particular version is not supported (and your experience tells me that the message is not highlighted enough – will be fixed!). Same goes to the server URL -by the way – we do show a message on the screen at the end of the install but your experience tells me that it is easy to miss and we will think of ways to have this information readily available in other places. 
I am truly sorry that you did not enjoy the full Hedgehog experience, and I really hope that you will have the opportunity to see it in action, once you have some more free time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim – many thanks for taking the time to download and try Hedgehog. </p>
<p>The main reason you did not manage to monitor the database is that presently Hedgehog supports 11g on Windows 32bit only. We’ll support 11g on Linux in the upcoming release. Hedgehog does alert you that the particular version is not supported (and your experience tells me that the message is not highlighted enough – will be fixed!). Same goes to the server URL -by the way – we do show a message on the screen at the end of the install but your experience tells me that it is easy to miss and we will think of ways to have this information readily available in other places.<br />
I am truly sorry that you did not enjoy the full Hedgehog experience, and I really hope that you will have the opportunity to see it in action, once you have some more free time.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/01/14/sentrigo-hedgehog/comment-page-1/#comment-72486</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete Finnigan happened to mention today (see http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001141.htm) that he&#039;s a UK channel partner for Sentrigo. So maybe someone else had better do the review?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete Finnigan happened to mention today (see <a href="http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001141.htm)" rel="nofollow">http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001141.htm)</a> that he&#8217;s a UK channel partner for Sentrigo. So maybe someone else had better do the review?</p>
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