Comments on: In the Valley of Elah and Cloverfield… http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/ Oracle related rants (and lots of off-topic stuff)... Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tim... http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-95662 Tim... Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:47:23 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/#comment-95662 I would prefer it if you didn't single out any specific nations on my blog. I would rather not have to consider censoring anyone. I don't think the message the film is trying to convery is directed at any specific war. I also don't think the film particularly cares which side you are on. For me the message is that war dehumanizes people. This is true of both sides. When people are asked to do extraordinary things, like fight in wars, it changes them. The impact of this change is the subject of the film, in my opinion. The actual war is irrelevant. That's the way I interpretted the film anyway. :) Cheers Tim... I would prefer it if you didn’t single out any specific nations on my blog. I would rather not have to consider censoring anyone.

I don’t think the message the film is trying to convery is directed at any specific war. I also don’t think the film particularly cares which side you are on. For me the message is that war dehumanizes people. This is true of both sides.

When people are asked to do extraordinary things, like fight in wars, it changes them. The impact of this change is the subject of the film, in my opinion. The actual war is irrelevant.

That’s the way I interpretted the film anyway. :)

Cheers

Tim…

]]> By: Carol http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-95657 Carol Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:52:29 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/#comment-95657 Valley of Elah was supposed to be anti-war and how awful our soldiers are. I guess??? I am numb to this liberal dredge. I would not stop to avoid a child in the street (doing what?) in Iraq--and I am a grandmother. I'll be damned if I would put my men at risk of a human bomb or having all the cretins running out of the bushes to kill me. Doubt if most writers of this stuff know the history of the Arabs. They never had captives or used torture--just hacked off heads of those who disagreed with them and were not able to be a slave. Read about Suleiman the Magnificient. Unfortunately--no one knows history about anything anymore--doesn't matter, most of it has been revised anyway. This did not sway me to feel sorry for anyone in Iraq. Children either. Valley of Elah was supposed to be anti-war and how awful our soldiers are. I guess???

I am numb to this liberal dredge. I would not stop to avoid a child in the street (doing what?) in Iraq–and I am a grandmother. I’ll be damned if I would put my men at risk of a human bomb or having all the cretins running out of the bushes to kill me.

Doubt if most writers of this stuff know the history of the Arabs. They never had captives or used torture–just hacked off heads of those who disagreed with them and were not able to be a slave. Read about Suleiman the Magnificient.

Unfortunately–no one knows history about anything anymore–doesn’t matter, most of it has been revised anyway.

This did not sway me to feel sorry for anyone in Iraq. Children either.

]]> By: cd http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-81690 cd Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:44:06 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/#comment-81690 A nice variation on the "Monster eats City" plot, because of the "amateur camera" the monster shots looked a lot better than the usual CGI stuff seen in such movies, at least in my opinon. A nice variation on the “Monster eats City” plot, because of the “amateur camera” the monster shots looked a lot better than the usual CGI stuff seen in such movies, at least in my opinon.

]]> By: John Scott http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-79491 John Scott Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:21:45 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/#comment-79491 I agree about Cloverfield, I knew from the trailers that this would be 'my kind of film', although I have to admit that during the first 10-15 minutes I thought I couldn't take any more of the wobbly camera work (not feeling sick, just annoyed by it). However once the action starts, the 'wobbly camera' just made the action all the more enjoyable. I can see why some people wouldn't enjoy the film, but I really enjoyed it. John. I agree about Cloverfield, I knew from the trailers that this would be ‘my kind of film’, although I have to admit that during the first 10-15 minutes I thought I couldn’t take any more of the wobbly camera work (not feeling sick, just annoyed by it).

However once the action starts, the ‘wobbly camera’ just made the action all the more enjoyable.

I can see why some people wouldn’t enjoy the film, but I really enjoyed it.

John.

]]> By: Noons http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-79392 Noons Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:57:07 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/#comment-79392 Not sure I'd call Cloverfield awesome. But it has one thing I've never seen in ANY other "monster" movie: the monster scenes are totally non-important, it completely concentrates on the human side of it. And that is truly unique! Sensational movie, as far as I'm concerned. Not awesome: just so different, it practically creates its own class. Heard the same kind of "comments" from some folks on the way out: I guess they like their "monster" movies predictable... Not sure I’d call Cloverfield awesome. But it has one thing I’ve
never seen in ANY other “monster” movie: the monster scenes
are totally non-important, it completely concentrates on the
human side of it. And that is truly unique! Sensational movie,
as far as I’m concerned. Not awesome: just so different, it
practically creates its own class.
Heard the same kind of “comments” from some folks on the way
out: I guess they like their “monster” movies predictable…

]]> By: Tim... http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-79374 Tim... Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:02:42 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/#comment-79374 Hi. If they do a good job of it, I'm quite happy to watch it. If they do a bad rehash totry and make some quick bucks I'm going to be really dissapointed. Cheers Tim... Hi.

If they do a good job of it, I’m quite happy to watch it. If they do a bad rehash totry and make some quick bucks I’m going to be really dissapointed.

Cheers

Tim…

]]> By: Carl Backstrom http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/comment-page-1/#comment-79337 Carl Backstrom Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:43:48 +0000 http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2008/02/03/in-the-valley-of-elah-and-cloverfield/#comment-79337 I'm with you Cloverfield was awesome! Did you see the spoiler in the last scene? Sounds like they are talking sequels, well i guess more parallel not sequel movies since it will be happening during same time frame. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35462 I’m with you Cloverfield was awesome!

Did you see the spoiler in the last scene?

Sounds like they are talking sequels, well i guess more parallel not sequel movies since it will be happening during same time frame.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35462

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