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	<title>Comments on: Who cares about the facts?</title>
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		<title>By: niall litchfield</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111826</link>
		<dc:creator>niall litchfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[high school spanish - hmm now there&#039;s an odd idea to an englishman. undsklyd!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>high school spanish &#8211; hmm now there&#8217;s an odd idea to an englishman. undsklyd!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111805</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you would certainly want to make a connection with the speaker... :)

Cheers

Tim...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you would certainly want to make a connection with the speaker&#8230; <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: joel garry</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111789</link>
		<dc:creator>joel garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also like the foreign film example.  When I was in the hospital for a few days I shared a room with someone who kept the Spanish soap opera channel on all day.  I don&#039;t remember any of my high school Spanish, but I was able to follow the soap operas, not that they had any technical content, except something about voodoo potions.  Not Romeo and Juliet, by any means.  But if you used those actresses to present about 11gR2 RAC, you&#039;d probably get a lot of attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also like the foreign film example.  When I was in the hospital for a few days I shared a room with someone who kept the Spanish soap opera channel on all day.  I don&#8217;t remember any of my high school Spanish, but I was able to follow the soap operas, not that they had any technical content, except something about voodoo potions.  Not Romeo and Juliet, by any means.  But if you used those actresses to present about 11gR2 RAC, you&#8217;d probably get a lot of attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111783</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi.

I guess I should have said &quot;irrelevant in the context of my post&quot;.

My post is not about the quote. More my observation that followed the quote. The quote got me to thinking about my experiences etc.

I guess the actual numbers will vary greatly depending on the subject matter and the audience. At a technical conference, the emphasis will me much more on content than at your standard get-rich-quick scheme.

The point really is that regardless of the quality of the content, if the speaker can&#039;t engage the audience, then the presentation will feel like running through mud and some of the audience will be lost.

It&#039;s funny that the comments on this post are focusing on the facts, not the feel. Maybe if this had been a conversation, we would have focused more on the feel, rather than the facts. Who knows? :)

Cheers

Tim...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>I guess I should have said &#8220;irrelevant in the context of my post&#8221;.</p>
<p>My post is not about the quote. More my observation that followed the quote. The quote got me to thinking about my experiences etc.</p>
<p>I guess the actual numbers will vary greatly depending on the subject matter and the audience. At a technical conference, the emphasis will me much more on content than at your standard get-rich-quick scheme.</p>
<p>The point really is that regardless of the quality of the content, if the speaker can&#8217;t engage the audience, then the presentation will feel like running through mud and some of the audience will be lost.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that the comments on this post are focusing on the facts, not the feel. Maybe if this had been a conversation, we would have focused more on the feel, rather than the facts. Who knows? <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: niall litchfield</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111780</link>
		<dc:creator>niall litchfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice spot :). I don&#039;t think the percentages are irrelevant actually, and some good research would be helpful, if it turns out that content is , say. 80% of the driver for a successful presentation (my bias) then that says something about what to concentrate on when preparing. If it turns out that the figure is 20% (often quoted by salespeople who as you say should know) then that also says something. 

by the way if you haven&#039;t found TED yet you probably should - take a look at http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html for example and sorry if you&#039;ve already seen it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice spot <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I don&#8217;t think the percentages are irrelevant actually, and some good research would be helpful, if it turns out that content is , say. 80% of the driver for a successful presentation (my bias) then that says something about what to concentrate on when preparing. If it turns out that the figure is 20% (often quoted by salespeople who as you say should know) then that also says something. </p>
<p>by the way if you haven&#8217;t found TED yet you probably should &#8211; take a look at <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html</a> for example and sorry if you&#8217;ve already seen it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way Niall, interesting to see the debunking post is on &quot;The Selling Professional Services Blog&quot;. If anyone should know about making an impact with zero content it should be a salesperson. :)

Cheers

Tim...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Niall, interesting to see the debunking post is on &#8220;The Selling Professional Services Blog&#8221;. If anyone should know about making an impact with zero content it should be a salesperson. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi.

I think the percentages are irrelevant really. The quote was more of a starting point that focused me on my own experiences.

I would certainly not go to a presentation with zero content, but I&#039;ve also been to many that have lots of content and zero soul.

My point was that my enjoyment of a presentation (receiving or presenting) is based on more than the content. The connection I have with the speaker/audience has little to do with the content.

I&#039;m glad the post got a couple of people thinking anyway. :)

Cheers

Tim...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>I think the percentages are irrelevant really. The quote was more of a starting point that focused me on my own experiences.</p>
<p>I would certainly not go to a presentation with zero content, but I&#8217;ve also been to many that have lots of content and zero soul.</p>
<p>My point was that my enjoyment of a presentation (receiving or presenting) is based on more than the content. The connection I have with the speaker/audience has little to do with the content.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad the post got a couple of people thinking anyway. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: niall litchfield</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111775</link>
		<dc:creator>niall litchfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[or I could have just linked to http://www.ianbrodie.com/blog/debunking-the-myths-of-non-verbal-communication/ and not ranted, I particularly like the foreign language film example, though I guess Opera would be a counter example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or I could have just linked to <a href="http://www.ianbrodie.com/blog/debunking-the-myths-of-non-verbal-communication/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ianbrodie.com/blog/debunking-the-myths-of-non-verbal-communication/</a> and not ranted, I particularly like the foreign language film example, though I guess Opera would be a counter example.</p>
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		<title>By: niall litchfield</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111774</link>
		<dc:creator>niall litchfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course non-verbal communication is important, and it&#039;s good to see that being picked up in a technical world. 

Your quote isn&#039;t however correct, or rather it&#039;s out of context. Firstly it&#039;s an old study of a stylized US presidential debate as perceived by tv viewers and radio listeners. As the title suggests some implications about certain very specific types of communication were considered by the study, it&#039;s interesting as well that it&#039;s nearly always this study that is cited - we don&#039;t really know how well it was confirmed by further research and how well it stacks up with reality, though I think we can be somewhat sceptical that 93% of what (say) teachers teach their kids is not content.   

so yes, non-verbal communication is important, it&#039;s simply not true (nor claimed by the study&#039;s authors by the way) that 93% of all communication is non-verbal. Content does matter, if it didn&#039;t we&#039;d all be watching reality TV -- errr hang-on a mo&#039; :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course non-verbal communication is important, and it&#8217;s good to see that being picked up in a technical world. </p>
<p>Your quote isn&#8217;t however correct, or rather it&#8217;s out of context. Firstly it&#8217;s an old study of a stylized US presidential debate as perceived by tv viewers and radio listeners. As the title suggests some implications about certain very specific types of communication were considered by the study, it&#8217;s interesting as well that it&#8217;s nearly always this study that is cited &#8211; we don&#8217;t really know how well it was confirmed by further research and how well it stacks up with reality, though I think we can be somewhat sceptical that 93% of what (say) teachers teach their kids is not content.   </p>
<p>so yes, non-verbal communication is important, it&#8217;s simply not true (nor claimed by the study&#8217;s authors by the way) that 93% of all communication is non-verbal. Content does matter, if it didn&#8217;t we&#8217;d all be watching reality TV &#8212; errr hang-on a mo&#8217; <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2009/09/29/who-cares-about-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-111765</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi.

Re: Soundbite. Point taken :)

Re: Content. Certainly. People are there to learn something about Oracle, not see a stage show. I just think it&#039;s interesting to remember that being a good presenter is not just about presenting facts.

Cheers

Tim...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>Re: Soundbite. Point taken <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Re: Content. Certainly. People are there to learn something about Oracle, not see a stage show. I just think it&#8217;s interesting to remember that being a good presenter is not just about presenting facts.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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