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	<title>Comments on: Red Hat heading for Oracle buyout?</title>
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		<title>By: Tim...</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2010/01/20/red-hat-heading-for-oracle-buyout/comment-page-1/#comment-116985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: Actually the company in question was paying quite substantial support fees to RH on a per-server basis. I don&#039;t work with that company anymore so I can&#039;t post details of the support contract, so although you definitely lost your bet, I can&#039;t prove you did. :)

Bryn: Thanks for the typo correction. Done it now. Regarding RH support: I can only speak as I find. Maybe I&#039;m the exception, maybe I&#039;m not...

Matt: I&#039;ve never used Oracle&#039;s Linux support, so I don&#039;t know how that compares to Red Hat support, but from my experience it can&#039;t be worse. :) I&#039;ve had some bad experiences with Microsoft support also, so I think maybe you are correct. Perhaps terrible OS support is the norm, in which case Red Hat are doing a stand-up job. :)

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: Actually the company in question was paying quite substantial support fees to RH on a per-server basis. I don&#8217;t work with that company anymore so I can&#8217;t post details of the support contract, so although you definitely lost your bet, I can&#8217;t prove you did. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bryn: Thanks for the typo correction. Done it now. Regarding RH support: I can only speak as I find. Maybe I&#8217;m the exception, maybe I&#8217;m not&#8230;</p>
<p>Matt: I&#8217;ve never used Oracle&#8217;s Linux support, so I don&#8217;t know how that compares to Red Hat support, but from my experience it can&#8217;t be worse. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve had some bad experiences with Microsoft support also, so I think maybe you are correct. Perhaps terrible OS support is the norm, in which case Red Hat are doing a stand-up job. <img src='http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryn</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2010/01/20/red-hat-heading-for-oracle-buyout/comment-page-1/#comment-116984</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you meant &quot;their&quot; support. Sheesh.

&quot;To be more specific, you raise a service request and never get a response.&quot;

I can assure you that that is, in the general case, untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you meant &#8220;their&#8221; support. Sheesh.</p>
<p>&#8220;To be more specific, you raise a service request and never get a response.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can assure you that that is, in the general case, untrue.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2010/01/20/red-hat-heading-for-oracle-buyout/comment-page-1/#comment-116983</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me guess Tim? I&#039;ll bet you $100 you&#039;re a free or basic subscription user and you want a 24/7 SLA. Send me a screenshot of you actually paying RH and I&#039;ll send you $100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me guess Tim? I&#8217;ll bet you $100 you&#8217;re a free or basic subscription user and you want a 24/7 SLA. Send me a screenshot of you actually paying RH and I&#8217;ll send you $100.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2010/01/20/red-hat-heading-for-oracle-buyout/comment-page-1/#comment-116982</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point of interest - the CIO survey that Red Hat routinely sights is based upon vlaue derived from soltuion. It has nothing to do with support - good, bad or indifferent. Did the solution deliver value? Which Linux and specfically Red Hat does. As far as support goes, all ISVs are poor at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point of interest &#8211; the CIO survey that Red Hat routinely sights is based upon vlaue derived from soltuion. It has nothing to do with support &#8211; good, bad or indifferent. Did the solution deliver value? Which Linux and specfically Red Hat does. As far as support goes, all ISVs are poor at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2010/01/20/red-hat-heading-for-oracle-buyout/comment-page-1/#comment-116968</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think RedHat&#039;s support is bad, just try getting quality support from Oracle for their &quot;Unbreakable Linux&quot;. I have had a support call open with them for 4 months now regarding VM Failover and they just cannot get it to work correctly for longer than a couple of days. The broken part is their own code that they have put around the RedHat part, specifically their OV Manager.

After wasting many many hours with them, we are now migrating back to RedHat, at least RedHat&#039;s VM offering works!

Les</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think RedHat&#8217;s support is bad, just try getting quality support from Oracle for their &#8220;Unbreakable Linux&#8221;. I have had a support call open with them for 4 months now regarding VM Failover and they just cannot get it to work correctly for longer than a couple of days. The broken part is their own code that they have put around the RedHat part, specifically their OV Manager.</p>
<p>After wasting many many hours with them, we are now migrating back to RedHat, at least RedHat&#8217;s VM offering works!</p>
<p>Les</p>
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		<title>By: oraclenude</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2010/01/20/red-hat-heading-for-oracle-buyout/comment-page-1/#comment-116967</link>
		<dc:creator>oraclenude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Great blog by the way - longtime lurker)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Great blog by the way &#8211; longtime lurker)</p>
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		<title>By: oraclenude</title>
		<link>http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2010/01/20/red-hat-heading-for-oracle-buyout/comment-page-1/#comment-116966</link>
		<dc:creator>oraclenude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you say something often enough, it becomes true. That is how big deals work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you say something often enough, it becomes true. That is how big deals work.</p>
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